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jaunte  Feb 22, 2019 • 11:22:18am
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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 22, 2019 • 11:26:01am

I always thought Stone looked like Beaker from the Muppets.

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Belafon  Feb 22, 2019 • 11:32:32am

re: #2 Shropshire Slasher

I always thought Stone looked like Beaker from the Muppets.

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Yeah, but Beaker makes sense.

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KerFuFFler  Feb 22, 2019 • 11:37:51am

re: #2 Shropshire Slasher

I always thought Stone looked like Beaker from the Muppets.

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I think he looks like a Zika victim.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 22, 2019 • 11:42:03am

re: #4 KerFuFFler

I think he looks like a Zika victim.

That is terrible.

Funny as hell.

But terrible.

:P

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CongoJack  Feb 22, 2019 • 11:49:49am

re: #4 KerFuFFler

I think he looks like a Zika victim.

Woof.

When the Mrs. and I watched get me Roger Stone she couldn’t look at his head. She just kept saying, “My gawd, he doesn’t have a frontal cortex… it (head) just all comes to a point… his brain couldn’t have developed correctly with a skull like that.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 11:51:04am

re: #6 CongoJack

Woof.

When the Mrs. and I watched get me Roger Stone she couldn’t look at his head. She just kept saying, “My gawd, he doesn’t have a frontal cortex… it (head) just all comes to a point… his brain couldn’t have developed correctly with a skull like that.”

Trey Gowdy is equally goofy looking.

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KerFuFFler  Feb 22, 2019 • 11:53:02am

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

google.com

See what I mean! Heh heh

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Dave In Austin  Feb 22, 2019 • 11:55:22am

re: #7 HappyWarrior

Roger Stone….. Beldar

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Belafon  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:00:57pm

He definitely looks like an American Horror Story character.

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Jay C  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:04:18pm

BTW, I found a link to a local TV station’s site (WPTV, W. Palm Beach) with a bunch of information on the recent day-spa prostitution busts.

The operation in Jupiter was only one of those “day spas” raided: apparently, there were more (3 at least) - and the bust was cited as the result of “an 8-month multi-agency” investigation, with trafficking as its focus.

Oh, and the cops say they have “video” enough to charge those clients [unlucky enough to get] caught on camera. Presumably including Robert Kraft and/or the unnamed “celebrity perp”….

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Broad With Sass  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:09:22pm

Turns out there was another massive set of arrests in the neighboring counties along the same lines as the ones in Jupiter/Palm beach County

The link Link is too the front page of the Florida Today which is published here in Melbourne/Brevard County

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plansbandc  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:11:21pm

Fell down the Kate Bush rabbit hole again…

Kate Bush - Army Dreamers - Official Music Video

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lawhawk  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:13:14pm

re: #12 Broad With Sass

From the Miami Herald:

Jupiter police had been under fire the past several days as rumors with Kraft’s name surfaced. Though other jurisdictions involved in the sting, like Martin County, had released the names of those arrested, Jupiter withheld the names until a Friday morning press conference.

(snip)

Law enforcement agencies from Vero Beach to Orlando began making arrests this week in a international sex trafficking scheme that police say has connections between Florida, New York and China.

As of Friday, eight day spas between the Treasure Coast and Orlando have been closed. Hundreds of clients of the spas have been charged, including almost 300 in Indian River and Martin Counties. Twenty-five people were arrested in the Jupiter sting that included Kraft.

Martin County Sheriff William Snyder told the Treasure Coast News that many of the women involved in the sex acts came to the U.S. from China on temporary visas.

“They were cooking on the back steps of the business,” Snyder told the newspaper. “They were sleeping in the massage parlor, on the massage tables.”

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:16:50pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:18:44pm
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lawhawk  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:20:46pm

re: #15 goddamnedfrank

Inverse relationship to importance.

The media glossed over the failed businesses, the weird relationships, and shaky financials of Trumpworld, but fixate on Clinton. They’re doing the same with the current crop of Democrats running - as if eating chicken and waffles is a crime (Kamala while visiting Sylvia’s in NYC the other day), or weird habits of Klobachar, or that Booker might be dating and *gasp* vegan.

These are the things that deflect from the important issues - that Trump is unqualified, unprepared, and incompetent to be in the WH - and this was known even before 2016 but the media did its worst to magic balance fairy the fuck out of things to give him a fighting chance against Clinton.

Now we’re watching the media fall down the same rabbit hole and do the same things to the Democrats while not digging into every aspect of Trump’s shady and corrupt practices.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:22:40pm

re: #15 goddamnedfrank

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There’s a lot of gender double standards going on about Klobuchar’s reputation as a boss unfortunately. And it’s not just Trump that is benefiting from them.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:24:07pm
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Decatur Deb  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:26:14pm

re: #6 CongoJack

Woof.

When the Mrs. and I watched get me Roger Stone she couldn’t look at his head. She just kept saying, “My gawd, he doesn’t have a frontal cortex… it (head) just all comes to a point… his brain couldn’t have developed correctly with a skull like that.”

Stone looks like a god. A minor Mayan clan deity. Ground squirrels or something.

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:31:14pm

re: #7 HappyWarrior

Trey Gowdy is equally goofy looking.

I’m not sure there’s anything one could show me that would make me believe Gowdy is not actually a muppet come to life

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Decatur Deb  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:32:17pm

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plansbandc  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:32:51pm

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Old Liberal  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:33:32pm

re: #17 lawhawk

Inverse relationship to importance.

The media glossed over the failed businesses, the weird relationships, and shaky financials of Trumpworld, but fixate on Clinton. They’re doing the same with the current crop of Democrats running - as if eating chicken and waffles is a crime (Kamala while visiting Sylvia’s in NYC the other day), or weird habits of Klobachar, or that Booker might be dating and *gasp* vegan.

These are the things that deflect from the important issues - that Trump is unqualified, unprepared, and incompetent to be in the WH - and this was known even before 2016 but the media did its worst to magic balance fairy the fuck out of things to give him a fighting chance against Clinton.

Now we’re watching the media fall down the same rabbit hole and do the same things to the Democrats while not digging into every aspect of Trump’s shady and corrupt practices.

Each of us is the only antidote. Got to talk to and motivate every nondrumpf voter out there. Fuck drumpf people they are lost cult victims. The media are useless except as a whipping boy for drumpf.

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ThomasLite  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:35:40pm

re: #15 goddamnedfrank

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TBF she’s actually (potentially) running for something in a field with other, at least somewhat, more qualified contenders. Also, too, Person 1 seems to be getting a fair bit of attention as well, by now.

Let’s face it, with Trumps approval ratings what they are, him fundamentally incapable of recognising the need for a change in his behaviour, and the amount of voter resentment even with moderate to moderate-right voters the Dem primary has a very high chance of being the presidential election more than the actual 2020 presidential election.
And a potential serious contender being equally incapable of dealing with staff and advisers as the current disaster-in-chief seems like a pretty valid news angle.
It should be disqualifying and she hasn’t exactly backed away from running so far so I’m really not seeing the problem. There’s room for more than one thing in the news.

What would help is if Dem leadership would bother to actually fight the whole collusion thing in the media a bit more; I appreciate the formal approach has to be done right but there’s nothing against taking a more vocal stance than many of them have been doing so far.
If anything it’s the useless blabbermouths (Bernie, Warren as far as I’m concerned) that make some waves where the more sensible party mainstream just… doesn’t.
You can complain all you like how it seems like republicans have gotten themselves on talk shows etc. a lot more over the past 20 years but the reason they managed that was by taking a fairly unified(ish) stand as a party and being vocal about it. And not just in a dry, procedurally correct manner.
And somehow, when handed what should be just about the easiest winning subject they could possibly dream of being handed, the Dem party mainstream just… doesn’t. I’m not saying it wouldn’t be nicer if journalists did their jobs a bit more diligently to begin with but if a national political party largely can’t be bothered to hand them some juicy meat that’s not going to help.
Instead a lot of what we see from the Democratic party is infighting. And that’s not necessarily a bad thing, with a primary coming up, but to argue that this discrepancy is due to biases external to the Dem party seems a little disingenuous to me.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:36:03pm

Kevin Kruse pwns Dipshit D’Stupids again. It must be a day ending in y.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:37:41pm

Guys listen, it’s never cool to make fun of someone’s appearance unless that someone is Scott Walker who looks that way because his grandmother fucked a flounder.

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Old Liberal  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:39:57pm

re: #18 HappyWarrior

There’s a lot of gender double standards going on about Klobuchar’s reputation as a boss unfortunately. And it’s not just Trump that is benefiting from them.

I worked for a lot of bad bosses, and the worst was the adult daughter of an alcoholic. Read about Klobuchar’s dad. Double standard or not, a toxic work environment like the current White House is damaging to our national security. When it turns into toadies and backstabbers and hunger games. Here’s the thing- hire good people get good results. So is Klobuchar a shitty boss or a shitty judge of talent? If you hire someone who underperforms, that’s on you and no amount of browbeating changes that fact.

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wrenchwench  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:40:27pm

re: #27 goddamnedfrank

Guys listen, it’s never cool to make fun of someone’s appearance unless that someone is Scott Walker who looks that way because his grandmother fucked a flounder.

D Deb was being very respectful. Looks like a jai alai champion.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:41:17pm

re: #24 Old Liberal

They may or may not be cult members. But Trump enablers definitely are beholden to a White Supremacist agenda that entitles white males extraordinary societal benefits no other group of people are allowed to posses.

…Like not getting automatically shot and killed in confrontation with police for one thing. Basic things like that.

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EPR-radar  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:42:47pm

re: #6 CongoJack

Woof.

When the Mrs. and I watched get me Roger Stone she couldn’t look at his head. She just kept saying, “My gawd, he doesn’t have a frontal cortex… it (head) just all comes to a point… his brain couldn’t have developed correctly with a skull like that.”

Stone is literally a pinhead.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:44:27pm

You know if I went to a shady massage place like that, I’d probably assume the place was wired to hell and back and factor that in to any decision to do business with them.

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Belafon  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:45:01pm

re: #28 Old Liberal

I worked for a lot of bad bosses, and the worst was the adult daughter of an alcoholic. Read about Klobuchar’s dad. Double standard or not, a toxic work environment like the current White House is damaging to our national security. When it turns into toadies and backstabbers and hunger games. Here’s the thing- hire good people get good results. So is Klobuchar a shitty boss or a shitty judge of talent? If you hire someone who underperforms, that’s on you and no amount of browbeating changes that fact.

And it’s actually a little hard to compare people to Trump in this case because he’s had zero government experience, and he’s tried to run his company like a crime organization. Maybe we should have asked him how many horse’s heads he’s had to use.

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Old Liberal  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:45:10pm

re: #18 HappyWarrior

There’s a lot of gender double standards going on about Klobuchar’s reputation as a boss unfortunately. And it’s not just Trump that is benefiting from them.

Now here’s the thing- the media has no business critiquing Klobuchars turnover and then giving drumpf a pass. He’s the worst ever.

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ObserverArt  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:47:55pm

re: #21 KGxvi

I’m not sure there’s anything one could show me that would make me believe Gowdy is not actually a muppet come to life

Why do you hate Muppets?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:48:47pm

re: #26 The Vicious Babushka

Kevin Kruse pwns Dipshit D’Stupids again. It must be a day ending in y.

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Dinesh really is stupid isn’t he. Jussie is a moron. A criminal one even but that doesn’t change that oh I don’t know that Republicans like him do campaign on racial prejudice all the fucking time. Not one Virginia Republican has expressed an apology to the state’s minority community about ohw Corey Stewart runs his campaigns here. Not a damn one. But go on Dinesh act like a B list celebrity making MAGA hats look like bigots is somehow worse than that.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:49:15pm

re: #34 Old Liberal

Now here’s the thing- the media has no business critiquing Klobuchars turnover and then giving drumpf a pass. He’s the worst ever.

Absolutely. And Trump has tons of turnover.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:49:25pm

Advertisers are feeling Youtube in droves after the discovery their cesspool of a comment system is getting overrun by pedophiles on certain videos.

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:49:51pm

re: #28 Old Liberal

I worked for a lot of bad bosses, and the worst was the adult daughter of an alcoholic. Read about Klobuchar’s dad. Double standard or not, a toxic work environment like the current White House is damaging to our national security. When it turns into toadies and backstabbers and hunger games. Here’s the thing- hire good people get good results. So is Klobuchar a shitty boss or a shitty judge of talent? If you hire someone who underperforms, that’s on you and no amount of browbeating changes that fact.

Also in the camp of having worked for a lot of bad bosses… and I feel like being a shitty boss and being a shitty judge of talent are often related. Shitty bosses often over estimate their own importance and under estimate the importance of their employees.

Then, when word gets around that you’re a shitty boss, you tend to draw less talented applicants. It sort of spirals on itself. Beyond that, you end up in a situation where all the employees, regardless of talent level are constantly looking for a new job. Which just intensifies the spiral of toxic/hostile work environments.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:50:04pm

re: #29 wrenchwench

D Deb was being very respectful. Looks like a jai alai champion.

Natchez and Flathead groups achieved that look, but it took mechanical intervention.

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sagehen  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:52:03pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

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Alternative hypothesis:

Removing lead from gasoline results in drastic reductions in violent crime 20 years later.

motherjones.com

Lead: America’s Real Criminal Element
The hidden villain behind violent crime, lower IQs, and even the ADHD epidemic.

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wrenchwench  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:54:04pm

re: #40 Decatur Deb

Natchez and Flathead groups achieved that look, but it took mechanical intervention.

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Probably got its start as protection of a newborn’s soft spot in the great outdoors.

I usually have a theory.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:54:10pm
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Old Liberal  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:55:04pm

re: #41 sagehen

Alternative hypothesis:

Removing lead from gasoline results in drastic reductions in violent crime 20 years later.

motherjones.com

Lead: America’s Real Criminal Element
The hidden villain behind violent crime, lower IQs, and even the ADHD epidemic.

Just think, for decades we pumped vaporized lead into our breathing air and that was due to lobbying by the lead pushers. Still remember the conservatives being upset that they couldn’t use leaded gas. Some fucking things never fucking change.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:55:23pm

re: #42 wrenchwench

Probably got its start as protection of a newborn’s soft spot in the great outdoors.

I usually have a theory.

“Hey, look at this rad body mod.”

“Sick, dude.”

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Belafon  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:55:49pm

re: #44 Old Liberal

Just think, for decades we pumped vaporized lead into our breathing air and that was due to lobbying by the lead pushers. Still remember the conservatives being upset that they couldn’t use leaded gas. Some fucking things never fucking change.

There was a reason for it being added at one time. Then cars got better.

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ObserverArt  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:55:56pm

re: #42 wrenchwench

Probably got its start as protection of a newborn’s soft spot in the great outdoors.

I usually have a theory.

Do you publish these theories?

You may be missing out on followers.

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gwangung  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:55:59pm

re: #28 Old Liberal

I worked for a lot of bad bosses, and the worst was the adult daughter of an alcoholic. Read about Klobuchar’s dad. Double standard or not, a toxic work environment like the current White House is damaging to our national security. When it turns into toadies and backstabbers and hunger games. Here’s the thing- hire good people get good results. So is Klobuchar a shitty boss or a shitty judge of talent? If you hire someone who underperforms, that’s on you and no amount of browbeating changes that fact.

Hm….the more that leaks out, the more I’m concluding that Klobuchar isn’t a good manager. There was a bit in the NYTimes that people who went on parental leave had to stay on the job three times as long as they were gone (and if they left anyway, they had to pay back the leave). That’s an old policy, but that it was there in the first place is kinda troubling….

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sagehen  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:56:35pm

re: #25 ThomasLite

You can complain all you like how it seems like republicans have gotten themselves on talk shows etc. a lot more over the past 20 years but the reason they managed that was by taking a fairly unified(ish) stand as a party and being vocal about it. And not just in a dry, procedurally correct manner.
And somehow, when handed what should be just about the easiest winning subject they could possibly dream of being handed, the Dem party mainstream just… doesn’t. I’m not saying it wouldn’t be nicer if journalists did their jobs a bit more diligently to begin with but if a national political party largely can’t be bothered to hand them some juicy meat that’s not going to help.

quoted for emphasis

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:56:49pm

I’d like to find out more about Klobuchar but it does kind of rub me the wrong way that all the people who have criticized her managing style haven’t gone out by name and those who have praised her have. I think the truth is probably somewhere in between. I don’t know. I think it’s a fair issue to discuss but if you’re going to discuss it for her, discuss it for other people who have a reputation of being tough to work for who are running for President and it’s not just Amy as I said.

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Old Liberal  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:57:18pm

re: #46 Belafon

There was a reason for it being added at one time. Then cars got better.

I read that the benefit/need ended decades before the use did. I’ll try to find that article.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:57:30pm

re: #41 sagehen

Alternative hypothesis:

Removing lead from gasoline results in drastic reductions in violent crime 20 years later.

motherjones.com

Lead: America’s Real Criminal Element
The hidden villain behind violent crime, lower IQs, and even the ADHD epidemic.

Not really an alternative since both theories work together, and leaded gas doesn’t explain the crime spike in Romania.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:57:59pm

re: #48 gwangung

Hm….the more that leaks out, the more I’m concluding that Klobuchar isn’t a good manager. There was a bit in the NYTimes that people who went on parental leave had to stay on the job three times as long as they were gone (and if they left anyway, they had to pay back the leave). That’s an old policy, but that it was there in the first place is kinda troubling….

I hadn’t seen that bit. I dunno honestly.

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wrenchwench  Feb 22, 2019 • 12:59:38pm

re: #47 ObserverArt

Do you publish these theories?

You may be missing out on followers.

Before the internet, my goal in life was to avoid having followers. So far, I’ve limited my publishing to pixels on LGF.

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Belafon  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:00:06pm

re: #51 Old Liberal

I read that the benefit/need ended decades before the use did. I’ll try to find that article.

Don’t worry. I agree. They were holding on just because someone said they had to change.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:00:06pm
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Decatur Deb  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:00:49pm

re: #52 goddamnedfrank

Not really an alternative since both theories work together, and leaded gas doesn’t explain the crime spike in Romania.

No thing is caused by one thing. No thing causes only one thing. That’s a Sociology sequella to Fr. Guido Sarducci’s $5, 5 minute college summary.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:01:16pm

Here’s what I do know, Amy Klobuchar was never going to be the nominee and this all feels like the spectacle of deliberate distraction.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:01:18pm

re: #56 The Vicious Babushka

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Your language sucks, asshole. You’re constantly complaining about the press when they don’t kiss your ass. You’re constantly showing more favor to Putin than your fellow Americans whose only crime is criticizing oyu. You’re a disgrace. It’s sickening that you’re not only our President but an American.

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Belafon  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:01:20pm

re: #56 The Vicious Babushka

“I call all my friends ‘enemies of the people’. It’s just something I do.”

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:01:27pm

re: #56 The Vicious Babushka

“I think my language is very nice.”

In fairness, it does sound better in the original German.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:01:40pm

re: #58 goddamnedfrank

Here’s what I do know, Amy Klobuchar was never going to be the nominee and this all feels like the spectacle of deliberate distraction.

I don’t think so either but it wouldn’t have surprised me if she got vetted for VP.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:01:47pm
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Belafon  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:02:31pm

re: #63 The Vicious Babushka

It seems to involve a lot of female reporters.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:03:06pm

re: #63 The Vicious Babushka

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He needs to be held accountable for continuing to lie like this. I know it’s not impeachable to lie offhand like this but he’s creating doubt in the democratic process by continuing to make up bullshit like this.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:03:22pm

re: #64 Belafon

It seems to involve a lot of female reporters.

Of course, they’re the worst offenders.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:03:33pm

re: #64 Belafon

It seems to involve a lot of female reporters.

Usually female and often not white. He’s a patronizing douchebag.

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:03:54pm

re: #63 The Vicious Babushka

Dear Media: stop showing him live. Run his speeches/press events on a ten minute delay and use the chyron to point out his lies.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:04:19pm

re: #68 KGxvi

Dear Media: stop showing him live. Run his speeches/press events on a ten minute delay and use the chyron to point out his lies.

That’s a great idea.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:05:06pm

re: #11 Jay C

BTW, I found a link to a local TV station’s site (WPTV, W. Palm Beach) with a bunch of information on the recent day-spa prostitution busts.

The operation in Jupiter was only one of those “day spas” raided: apparently, there were more (3 at least) - and the bust was cited as the result of “an 8-month multi-agency” investigation, with trafficking as its focus.

Oh, and the cops say they have “video” enough to charge those clients [unlucky enough to get] caught on camera. Presumably including Robert Kraft and/or the unnamed “celebrity perp”….

i’ve read/heard 5, but dont have locations yet

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Belafon  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:05:10pm

re: #68 KGxvi

Dear Media: stop showing him live. Run his speeches/press events on a ten minute delay and use the chyron to point out his lies.

And visibly skip through the parts where he repeats himself.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:05:15pm

re: #63 The Vicious Babushka

John Aravosis 🇺🇸

@aravosis
Trump just claimed, falsely, that there were 1 million illegal votes in California. When the reporter tries to correct him, he shuts her down.

Trump effectively uses his “excuse me!” line to cut reporters off who try to hold him accountable for a lie. They shouldn’t stop.

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2:49 PM - Feb 22, 2019

The Big Lie: Keep on repeating a falsehood and it will seep into the public consciousness. Trump learned his lessons from his collection of Hitler’s speeches.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:05:58pm

re: #38 Eclectic Cyborg

Advertisers are feeling Youtube in droves after the discovery their cesspool of a comment system is getting overrun by pedophiles on certain videos.

Yeah, I saw mention of that in the news earlier today. The pedos are not only making comments, they’re timestamping certain segments of videos and sharing non-YouTube links to god only knows what in the YT comments.

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:06:01pm

re: #71 Belafon

And visibly skip through the parts where he repeats himself.

Nah, keep those, just run on the chyron “he already said that, and it was a lie then, too”

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:06:58pm

re: #68 KGxvi

Dear Media: stop showing him live. Run his speeches/press events on a ten minute delay and use the chyron to point out his lies.

I stole that & Tweeted it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:08:46pm

Hell give him a shock collar. If he lies, he gets zapped.

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EPR-radar  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:09:35pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

Your language sucks, asshole. You’re constantly complaining about the press when they don’t kiss your ass. You’re constantly showing more favor to Putin than your fellow Americans whose only crime is criticizing oyu. You’re a disgrace. It’s sickening that you’re not only our President but an American.

Trump is a disgrace to his nation, gender, race, species, genus, family, order, class, phylum, kingdom and domain.

He may be the single most loathsome living thing produced in billions of years of evolution on earth.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:11:06pm

re: #77 EPR-radar

Trump is a disgrace to his nation, gender, race, species, genus, family, order, class, phylum, kingdom and domain.

He may be the single most loathsome living thing produced in billions of years of evolution on earth.

It still makes me ill that he got elected. I’m never going to jet over that.

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Teukka  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:12:30pm

re: #44 Old Liberal

Just think, for decades we pumped vaporized lead into our breathing air and that was due to lobbying by the lead pushers. Still remember the conservatives being upset that they couldn’t use leaded gas. Some fucking things never fucking change.

Lead in gasoline isn’t the only niche that has experienced lobbying which has had detrimental knock-on effects… There are numerous examples of systemic issues that no-one dares to really look into, because really looking into them would require decision-makers to radically re-evaluate policy and its effects.

It’s easier to impose harsher sanctions for some crimes than it is to admit to yourself and the public that your policies and the underlying causes of societal problems are intertwined.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:15:05pm

re: #63 The Vicious Babushka

Trump just claimed, falsely, that there were 1 million illegal votes in California. When the reporter tries to correct him, he shuts her down.

Trump effectively uses his “excuse me!” line to cut reporters off who try to hold him accountable for a lie. They shouldn’t stop.

the NEXT person needs to ask “why wont you answer the last question?”

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Old Liberal  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:15:09pm

Here’s a very detyarticle on the deliberate poisoning by lead when a superior solution was available.
thenation.com

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:16:45pm

re: #72 Hecuba’s daughter

The Big Lie: Keep on repeating a falsehood and it will seep into the public consciousness. Trump learned his lessons from his collection of Hitler’s speeches.

which is why i keep saying stop debating ‘the wall’
he made the wall a thing and now it is a thing permanently
now we’re only talking about where, how much, and where’s the money coming from

we should be saying “a wall is not what america is”

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Decatur Deb  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:18:00pm

re: #81 Old Liberal

Here’s a very detyarticle on the deliberate poisoning by lead when a superior solution was available.
thenation.com

No Joy, #502’d.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:20:01pm

re: #28 Old Liberal

I worked for a lot of bad bosses, and the worst was the adult daughter of an alcoholic. Read about Klobuchar’s dad.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:20:08pm

Is it a little weird to anyone else that a fucking billionaire was getting his rocks off at a seedy ass strip mall massage parlor?

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mmmirele  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:20:47pm

re: #85 goddamnedfrank

Is it a little weird to anyone else that a fucking billionaire was getting his rocks off at a seedy ass strip mall massage parlor?

Yeah. So what else was going on?

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Decatur Deb  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:20:52pm

re: #85 goddamnedfrank

Is it a little weird to anyone else that a fucking billionaire was getting his rocks off at a seedy ass strip mall massage parlor?

Common touch.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:23:01pm

re: #79 Teukka

Lead in gasoline isn’t the only niche that has experienced lobbying which has had detrimental knock-on effects… There are numerous examples of systemic issues that no-one dares to really look into, because really looking into them would require decision-makers to radically re-evaluate policy and its effects.

It’s easier to impose harsher sanctions for some crimes than it is to admit to yourself and the public that your policies and the underlying causes of societal problems are intertwined.

money = policy = money = policy….

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wrenchwench  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:24:39pm

re: #88 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

money = policy = money = policy….

Is that a perpetual motion machine?

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Belafon  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:25:12pm

re: #89 wrenchwench

Is that a perpetual motion machine?

Built by John Galt.

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lawhawk  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:25:12pm

Zinke’s in trouble…. (department of redundancy department, since this is Trumpworld we’re talking about).

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:25:34pm

re: #85 goddamnedfrank

Is it a little weird to anyone else that a fucking billionaire was getting his rocks off at a seedy ass strip mall massage parlor?

its either that or you gotta first get an NDA, then a lawyer to make hush payments through a couple of llc’s….

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:26:06pm

re: #89 wrenchwench

Is that a perpetual motion machine?

sure seems like it is for the people we keep voting for

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lawhawk  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:26:57pm

Gaslighting with a flamethrower, napalm, and WP.

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:27:59pm

re: #85 goddamnedfrank

Is it a little weird to anyone else that a fucking billionaire was getting his rocks off at a seedy ass strip mall massage parlor?

I mean there’s the old joke about how you become rich by spending as little as possible, but you’d think being an 80-something year old billionaire, you’d spring for the high class, high price, discreet escort service, no?

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wrenchwench  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:28:33pm

re: #93 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

sure seems like it is for the people we keep voting for

…so that government of the money, by the money, and for the money shall not perish…

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Decatur Deb  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:31:11pm

re: #95 KGxvi

I mean there’s the old joke about how you become rich by spending as little as possible, but you’d think being an 80-something year old billionaire, you’d spring for the high class, high price, discreet escort service, no?

Just keep a Justice of the Peace, cardiologist, and divorce lawyer on retainer.

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EPR-radar  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:31:44pm

re: #94 lawhawk

Of course Trump is not going to moderate his language. He is the Spiritual Leader of the Pig-People precisely because he is such a blatant gaping asshole.

So perhaps the reason the GOP Powers That Be haven’t disposed of Trump is that they think the time is right for a right-wing fascist takeover of the US, and appreciate that Trump is the most effective rabble rouser they have.

That’s getting very close to the only available rational reason why they haven’t sent this clown off to a rubber room to play with blocks and brightly colored pieces of string using the 25th amendment.

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wrenchwench  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:32:16pm

Damit, I keep forgetting to check the little box that returns you to the post you were replying to. Do I get one if I reply to myself?

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Decatur Deb  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:32:45pm

If you want to believe the Daily Mail, Trump has made a mild statement on Kraft. He’s “surprised”.

dailymail.co.uk

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wrenchwench  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:33:09pm

re: #99 wrenchwench

Yes! Done.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:34:14pm

re: #101 wrenchwench

Yes! Done.

soto voce.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:35:05pm

re: #100 Decatur Deb

If you want to believe the Daily Mail, Trump has made a mild statement on Kraft. He’s “surprised”.

dailymail.co.uk

Isn’t the DailyFail notorious for its inaccuracy?

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wrenchwench  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:35:06pm

…but I don’t get to upding my own comments. I think one should be able to upding before and after a reply (not necessarily to oneself).

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Decatur Deb  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:37:25pm

re: #103 Hecuba’s daughter

Isn’t the DailyFail notorious for its inaccuracy?

Hence the warning. (And we call it “bullshit” here in the Land o’ Cotton.)

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Old Liberal  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:38:15pm

re: #84 Eric The Fruit Bat

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CongoJack  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:40:21pm

Good string

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Decatur Deb  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:40:29pm

#97 edited to hornor the subject’s staying power.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:40:32pm

re: #100 Decatur Deb

If you want to believe the Daily Mail, Trump has made a mild statement on Kraft. He’s “surprised”.

dailymail.co.uk

No concern about the women that were being trafficked, of course.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:41:08pm

re: #107 CongoJack

Good string

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The question ought not be why do British people not lke Donald Trump. The question ought to be why does anyone like him?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:41:36pm

re: #27 goddamnedfrank

Guys listen, it’s never cool to make fun of someone’s appearance unless that someone is Scott Walker who looks that way because his grandmother fucked a flounder.

gee…Scott Walker is my guess for the mystery massage guy…

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KerFuFFler  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:44:54pm

re: #68 KGxvi

Dear Media: stop showing him live. Run his speeches/press events on a ten minute delay and use the chyron to point out his lies.

And use a game show style buzzer to emphasize whenever he is caught in a lie they want you to check the chyron for.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:45:07pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

gee…Scott Walker is my guess for the mystery massage guy…

What is McConnell’s take on the NFL?

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:45:12pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

No concern about the women that were being trafficked, of course.

on his watch
inside his country
got by his border

the only thing missing was the duct tape

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Decatur Deb  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:45:52pm

re: #114 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

on his watch
inside his country
got by his border

the only thing missing was the duct tape

Accessories cost extra.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:47:35pm

re: #95 KGxvi

I mean there’s the old joke about how you become rich by spending as little as possible, but you’d think being an 80-something year old billionaire, you’d spring for the high class, high price, discreet escort service, no?

Exactly my point, I think he at least partly got off on the power disparity between him and these trafficked girls, and it fucked up his risk analysis calibration.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:47:55pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

gee…Scott Walker is my guess for the mystery massage guy…

Nah. Walker isn’t that well known nationally.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:49:18pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

No concern about the women that were being trafficked, of course.

Wait till we find out they were brought across the border in a panel van, tied up with duct tape, by a driver who took a right turn, then a left turn, then another left turn, right across the border into Vermont.

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CongoJack  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:50:28pm

re: #117 HappyWarrior

Nah. Walker isn’t that well known nationally.

I hope beyond hope… Rick Scott

My outside sports figure who may have been involved…. Tiger Woods

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:50:39pm

re: #117 HappyWarrior

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:51:02pm

I used to work with a guy who talked about frequenting massage parlors and getting happy endings and I was like “man, you are seriously gross.”

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CongoJack  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:51:36pm
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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:51:39pm

re: #119 CongoJack

I hope beyond hope… Rick Scott

My outside sports figure who may have been involved…. Tiger Woods

If it’s Scott, wouldn’t that mean that DeSantis would get to appoint a replacement (that has to run next year)? And wouldn’t that replacement be the most Trumpian Trumpist who ever tried to Trump?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:52:08pm

re: #120 KGxvi

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Limbaugh for someone not in sports, Tiger for someone who is. Imo

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:53:40pm

re: #115 Decatur Deb

Accessories cost extra.

like i said earlier, i actually did go for a massage today

the things they try to sell you when you’re laying prone, face in the donut hole trying to forget everything…

oils, upgrade services, memberships, vibrators (no not that kind) and lots of woo stuff

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Sir John Barron  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:54:49pm

re: #94 lawhawk

Gaslighting with a flamethrower, napalm, and WP.

“I have the best language.”

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lawhawk  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:54:59pm

re: #124 HappyWarrior

Limbaugh for someone not in sports, Tiger for someone who is. Imo

Politician class: Cruz
Sports: Tiger
Pundit/media: Hannity

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:55:43pm

re: #123 KGxvi

If it’s Scott, wouldn’t that mean that DeSantis would get to appoint a replacement (that has to run next year)? And wouldn’t that replacement be the most Trumpian Trumpist who ever tried to Trump?

as if scott would resign

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:56:21pm

Lre: #127 lawhawk

Politician class: Cruz
Sports: Tiger
Pundit/media: Hannity

I’d take Rush over Hannity. Rush has ties to that part of FLA. I’d take Rubio before Cruz tbh for the same reason.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:56:46pm

re: #127 lawhawk

Politician class: Cruz
Sports: Tiger
Pundit/media: Hannity

I could see Limbaugh, though. Didn’t he like to take “vacations” in the Dominican Republic or something like that? IIRC, it was somewhere notorious for underage prostitution - and if I’m remembering right, he got busted with a shit-ton of Viagra on his return from his “vacation”.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:56:57pm

Rush also has the DR trip too.

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:56:59pm

re: #128 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

as if scott would resign

Hard to be a Senator when you’re spending six to eight months in prison.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:58:26pm

re: #130 Dr Lizardo

I could see Limbaugh, though. Didn’t he like to take “vacations” in the Dominican Republic or something like that? IIRC, it was somewhere notorious for underage prostitution - and if I’m remembering right, he got busted with a shit-ton of Viagra on his return from his “vacation”.

Yes. And he’s based out of that part of FLA.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 22, 2019 • 1:58:31pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

He needs to be held accountable for continuing to lie like this. I know it’s not impeachable to lie offhand like this but he’s creating doubt in the democratic process by continuing to make up bullshit like this.

2020 come on

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:02:41pm

re: #134 Sir John Barron

2020 come on

Can’t come soon enough.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:04:20pm

re: #14 lawhawk

From the Miami Herald:

Build The WALL!!!

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:04:33pm

re: #132 KGxvi

Hard to be a Senator when you’re spending six to eight months in prison.

this is an administration of firsts…

- argument 1: like the senate actually does anything
- argument 2/ mcturtle: i’m not gonna expel a guy for one indiscretion. he deserves a second chance. so while we have enough votes without him, we’ll just keep his seat warm

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:05:11pm

re: #7 HappyWarrior

Trey Gowdy is equally goofy looking.

He’s got Oswald Cobblepot’s hair style.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:06:07pm

re: #123 KGxvi

If it’s Scott, wouldn’t that mean that DeSantis would get to appoint a replacement (that has to run next year)? And wouldn’t that replacement be the most Trumpian Trumpist who ever tried to Trump?

Could it be DeSantis?

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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:18:18pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:18:43pm

re: #139 Hecuba’s daughter

Could it be DeSantis?

I don’t think DeSanttis is that well known nationally.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:19:04pm

re: #140 Single-handed sailor

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Just a dick in a box.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:19:04pm
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EPR-radar  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:20:49pm

re: #122 CongoJack

A three dollar bill.

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TedStriker  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:21:40pm

re: #142 HappyWarrior

Just a dick in a box.

Step 1: Cut a hole in a box
Step 2: Put your junk in that box
Step 3: Make her open the box
And that is how you do it

///

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:25:58pm

re: #85 goddamnedfrank

Is it a little weird to anyone else that a fucking billionaire was getting his rocks off at a seedy ass strip mall massage parlor?

With what he’s worth, he could get a porn star escort or two, but lots of rich people are cheap ass like that.

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plansbandc  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:26:31pm

re: #143 goddamnedfrank

They are so prehistoric looking. It’s like staring at a live dinosaur.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:28:57pm

re: #146 NO SMOCKING GUN!

With what he’s worth, he could get a porn star escort or two, but lots of rich people are cheap ass like that.

Maybe he’s got a fetish for Asian women.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:29:00pm

re: #85 goddamnedfrank

Honestly it’s not that surprising. You’re a rich famous old white dude, you see what the tabloids do to those types, you know if you get spotted with a high price escort you’re gonna be in deep doo doo. Or, even worse, end up on a list like what happened with the Manhattan Madam situation. So rather than going to some high price escort deal you instead find a nondescript “massage” parlor and get your rocks off with someone who doesn’t know you at all and doesn’t even really speak english.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:30:08pm

re: #98 EPR-radar

Of course Trump is not going to moderate his language. He is the Spiritual Leader of the Pig-People precisely because he is such a blatant gaping asshole.

So perhaps the reason the GOP Powers That Be haven’t disposed of Trump is that they think the time is right for a right-wing fascist takeover of the US, and appreciate that Trump is the most effective rabble rouser they have.

That’s getting very close to the only available rational reason why they haven’t sent this clown off to a rubber room to play with blocks and brightly colored pieces of string using the 25th amendment.

To me the answer is simply fear. Trump panders to the base, and they love him for it. So any Republican who gets crosswise with Trump will get crosswise with their own primary voters. Simple as that.

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TedStriker  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:30:37pm

re: #149 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Honestly it’s not that surprising. You’re a rich famous old white dude, you see what the tabloids do to those types, you know if you get spotted with a high price escort you’re gonna be in deep doo doo. Or, even worse, end up on a list like what happened with the Manhattan Madam situation. So rather than going to some high price escort deal you instead find a nondescript “massage” parlor and get your rocks off with someone who doesn’t know you at all and doesn’t even really speak english.

Someone that doesn’t have a command enough of English to rat you out to either the tabloids or the cops.

Unfortunately for Kraft (and the other as-of-yet-unnamed famous person referenced, as well as the other johns), the cops were already all over it.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:32:38pm

re: #151 TedStriker

Someone that doesn’t have a command enough of English to rat you out to either the tabloids or the cops.

Exactly. And who never really sees the light of day and is probably told they’ll be deported if they ever say anything to anyone.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:32:59pm

re: #150 NO SMOCKING GUN!

To me the answer is simply fear. Trump panders to the base, and they love him for it. So any Republican who gets crosswise with Trump will get crosswise with their own primary voters. Simple as that.

the only ‘clever’ thing he did and i think it was by accident
he pulled their voters out from under them while they watched

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:34:07pm

Have fun, Lizards. Gonna call it a day.

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TedStriker  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:35:09pm

re: #152 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Exactly. And who never really sees the light of day and is probably told they’ll be deported if they ever say anything to anyone.

Or, as in many human trafficking situations, they’re threatened with much, much worse.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:35:15pm

a great quote

“Look, you could be a senior senator and have never managed more than a hundred people in your life. I not only have more years of government experience than the president of the United States, but I have more years of executive experience than the vice president of the United States, and more wartime experience than anybody who arrived in the office since George H.W. Bush.”

— South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg, quoted by the Washington Post, on his experience to be president despite being 37 years old.

…if a last name alone could sink your chances…

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MsJ  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:36:18pm

re: #87 Decatur Deb

Common touch.

There’s not enough purell in the world to be with anyone who’s doing 1500 people a year.

(I know they are not doing this of their free will and I am completely being snarky and flippant and would never, ever say that anywhere else but here [or to the spouse in person].)

Those trafficking fuckers should have their dicks cut off and then spend life in prison for making women do that.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:37:47pm

re: #123 KGxvi

If it’s Scott, wouldn’t that mean that DeSantis would get to appoint a replacement (that has to run next year)? And wouldn’t that replacement be the most Trumpian Trumpist who ever tried to Trump?

The thought probably is that it would damage Scott’s 2024 presidential run. But it would probably only clinch him the GOP nomination.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:38:12pm

re: #156 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

a great quote

…if a last name alone could sink your chances…

I was impressed with his DNC chair bid. TBH I think he’d be better off running for another position but he’s not wrong at all.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:38:20pm

re: #155 TedStriker

again, very true.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:39:27pm

did y’all see this letter this morning. it’s an outstanding op-ed in the wapo

Adam Schiff: An open letter to my Republican colleagues

When the president attacked the independence of the Justice Department by intervening in a case in which he is implicated, you did not speak out. When he attacked the press as the enemy of the people, you again were silent. When he targeted the judiciary, labeling judges and decisions he didn’t like as illegitimate, we heard not a word. And now he comes for Congress, the first branch of government, seeking to strip it of its greatest power, that of the purse.”

“Many of you have acknowledged your deep misgivings about the president in quiet conversations over the past two years. You have bemoaned his lack of decency, character and integrity. You have deplored his fundamental inability to tell the truth. But for reasons that are all too easy to comprehend, you have chosen to keep your misgivings and your rising alarm private.”

“That must end. The time for silent disagreement is over. You must speak out.”

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Decatur Deb  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:39:54pm

re: #149 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Honestly it’s not that surprising. You’re a rich famous old white dude, you see what the tabloids do to those types, you know if you get spotted with a high price escort you’re gonna be in deep doo doo. Or, even worse, end up on a list like what happened with the Manhattan Madam situation. So rather than going to some high price escort deal you instead find a nondescript “massage” parlor and get your rocks off with someone who doesn’t know you at all and doesn’t even really speak english.

“Romantic Hit of the Year!! You’ll laugh. You”ll cry. You’ll retch!!!”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:39:57pm

re: #132 KGxvi

Hard to be a Senator when you’re spending six to eight months in prison.

Its only a misdemeanor; he’ll pay a fine and be on his way.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:40:24pm

re: #157 MsJ

There’s not enough purell in the world to be with anyone who’s doing 1500 people a year.

(I know they are not doing this of their free will and I am completely being snarky and flippant and would never, ever say that anywhere else but here [or to the spouse in person].)

Those trafficking fuckers should have their dicks cut off and then spend life in prison for making women do that.

looks like the ‘ring leaders’ are a couple of chinese women

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TedStriker  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:41:58pm

re: #164 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

looks like the ‘ring leaders’ are a couple of chinese women

*looks for germane Madeline Albright quote*

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:45:44pm

re: #156 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

a great quote

…if a last name alone could sink your chances…

Obama won with the middle name Hussein.

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TedStriker  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:47:26pm

re: #166 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Obama won with the middle name Hussein.

Twice.

It just drove what was left of the GOP’s collective mind into open racist, bigoted insanity, culminating in the world of shit we’re in now with Trump.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:48:52pm

re: #166 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Obama won with the middle name Hussein.

true enough and that did come to mind
and i was only half joking really

‘mayor pete’ works fine for me

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plansbandc  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:49:25pm

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:52:02pm

Mayor Pete’s website doesn’t have any info on the issues but I like the guy and think he shouldn’t be ignored.

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TedStriker  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:52:25pm

re: #169 plansbandc

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Some people shit on taggers and graffiti/”street” artists, but when it’s done right, it’s just as much “art” as anything in a stuffy gallery.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:53:30pm

re: #169 plansbandc

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That is so cool.

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ckkatz  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:53:57pm

I’ve been enjoying goddamnedfrank’s posts on the cool fishtank project. But I keep thinking about this ‘caper’ of a couple of years ago…

The hackers attempted to acquire data from a North American casino by using an Internet-connected fish tank, according to a report released Thursday by cybersecurity firm Darktrace.

The fish tank had sensors connected to a PC that regulated the temperature, food and cleanliness of the tank.

“Somebody got into the fish tank and used it to move around into other areas (of the network) and sent out data,” said Justin Fier, Darktrace’s director of cyber intelligence.

….

“This one is the most entertaining and clever thinking by hackers I’ve seen,” said Hemu Nigam, a former federal prosecutor for computer crimes and current chief executive of SSP Blue, a cybersecurity company.

How a fish tank helped hack a casino
By Alex Schiffer
July 21, 2017

washingtonpost.com

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:54:09pm

re: #171 TedStriker

Some people shit on taggers and graffiti artists, but when it’s done right, it’s just as much “art” as anything in a stuffy gallery.

Yeah. I had a classmate do a presentation on graffiti art. Was very neat.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:55:11pm

re: #173 ckkatz

And here we see the pitfalls of connecting everything around us to the internet.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:56:33pm

re: #169 plansbandc

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there are some clever people out there

and i love that one tooth…

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:56:55pm

re: #94 lawhawk

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Gaslighting with a flamethrower, napalm, and WP.

I watched his response to the the question posed to him regarding the capture of the white nationalist terrorist.

Regarding Hasson’s arrest, Trump found it to be “a shame” that it happened. By his phrasing, it isn’t exactly clear whether he was talking about Hasson getting caught before he could attempt to kill Trump’s enemies.

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plansbandc  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:57:15pm

re: #171 TedStriker

I think street art is amazing. My favorite artist is a street artist. L7m:

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:58:16pm

re: #173 ckkatz

I’ve been enjoying goddamnedfrank’s posts on the cool fishtank project. But I keep thinking about this ‘caper’ of a couple of years ago…

“Somebody got into the fish tank and used it to move around into other areas (of the network) and sent out data,” said Justin Fier, Darktrace’s director of cyber intelligence.

How a fish tank helped hack a casino
By Alex Schiffer
July 21, 2017

washingtonpost.com

so many possibilities in that quote

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ckkatz  Feb 22, 2019 • 2:59:50pm

re: #179 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

so many possibilities in that quote

I’m thinking that I will not ask… :)

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makeitstop  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:02:26pm

re: #171 TedStriker

Some people shit on taggers and graffiti/”street” artists, but when it’s done right, it’s just as much “art” as anything in a stuffy gallery.

Wherever I go, I take a good amount of photography of the city, and I always make it a point to seek our street art and photograph that. It’s cool to see regional spin on street art, and also to see the similarities between street art in DC and Brussels, for instance.

And some of it is just so good.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:04:45pm

re: #177 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

I watched his response to the the question posed to him regarding the capture of the white nationalist terrorist.

Regarding Hasson’s arrest, Trump found it to be “a shame” that it happened. By his phrasing, it isn’t exactly clear whether he was talking about Hasson getting caught before he could attempt to kill Trump’s enemies.

And you think Trump is actually aware of the details or even cares anything about it? And he won’t be the wiser even after the supposed briefing he is receiving.

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danarchy  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:06:17pm

re: #171 TedStriker

Some people shit on taggers and graffiti/”street” artists, but when it’s done right, it’s just as much “art” as anything in a stuffy gallery.

Some street art is fantastic, most is just an ugly mess, all of it is vandalism unless the artist gets permission in advance and that’s my main issue with it.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:08:06pm

re: #177 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

I watched his response to the the question posed to him regarding the capture of the white nationalist terrorist.

Regarding Hasson’s arrest, Trump found it to be “a shame” that it happened. By his phrasing, it isn’t exactly clear whether he was talking about Hasson getting caught before he could attempt to kill Trump’s enemies.

‘a shame’ is probably his phrase for today and he’ll stick it in everything

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Chrysicat  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:09:35pm
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TedStriker  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:09:54pm

re: #174 HappyWarrior

Yeah. I had a classmate do a presentation on graffiti art. Was very neat.

When Anthony Bourdain did his show for either the Bronx or for Queens for Parts Unknown (I think it was the Bronx episode), he did a bit about the subway graffiti art of the 70s; some of that shit was impressive, to say the least.

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MsJ  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:11:29pm

re: #164 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

looks like the ‘ring leaders’ are a couple of chinese women

But of course. 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

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ThomasLite  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:14:41pm

re: #171 TedStriker

Some people shit on taggers and graffiti/”street” artists, but when it’s done right, it’s just as much “art” as anything in a stuffy gallery.

Yeah, well… I bet art in that stuffy gallery can get the placement of the eyebrows right though. pfeh.

/need I?

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ObserverArt  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:16:03pm

re: #161 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

did y’all see this letter this morning. it’s an outstanding op-ed in the wapo

Adam Schiff: An open letter to my Republican colleagues

Any idea how this letter has gone over?

I’m thinking there is much quiet and possibly some low grumbling and moaning.

And of course, FOX News attacks coming soon on a TV near you.

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dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:21:10pm

re: #189 ObserverArt

Any idea how this letter has gone over?

I’m thinking there is much quiet and possibly some low grumbling and moaning.

And of course, FOX News attacks coming soon on a TV near you.

i saw it on politicalwire.com

a wide range of comments, mostly positive

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ObserverArt  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:26:06pm

I had a young art student working under me from the same Columbus art college I went to. He was doing some of our graphics decal and cut vinyl work.

He was kicked out of the art college due to getting busted a couple times for tagging here in Columbus.

He had it bad, It was almost an addiction for him. I think it had a lot to do with the late nights and getting away with it.

I think he did manage to get back into school to finish his degree, but he was on a severe time-out.

He also was a huge Shepard Fairey fan.

A free upding to anyone that knows the one piece Shepard is most well known for having created?

(I bet this won’t take lizards too long…)

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makeitstop  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:28:49pm

re: #191 ObserverArt

I had a young art student working under me from the same Columbus art college I went to. He was doing some of our graphics decal and cut vinyl work.

He was kicked out of the art college due to getting busted a couple times for tagging here in Columbus.

He had it bad, It was almost an addiction for him. I think had a lot to do with the late nights and getting away with it.

I think he did manage to get back into school to finish his degree, but he was on a severe time-out.

He also was a huge Shepard Fairey fan.

A free upding to anyone that knows the one piece Shepard is most well know for having created?

(I bet this won’t take lizards too long…)

OBEY

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ObserverArt  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:29:38pm

re: #192 makeitstop

OBEY

Good guess…but not the piece I had in mind.

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TedStriker  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:30:12pm

re: #193 ObserverArt

Good guess…but not the piece I had in mind.

The Obama “HOPE” piece.

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ObserverArt  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:31:18pm

re: #194 TedStriker

The Obama “HOPE” piece.

DING!

Did you Google by any chance, or did you already know it? Just wondering. It is pretty easy to find it in images.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:31:36pm

re: #85 goddamnedfrank

Is it a little weird to anyone else that a fucking billionaire was getting his rocks off at a seedy ass strip mall massage parlor?

Well, Kraft’s’ wife did pass away a few years ago. Maybe got a start to try and ease grieving and got hooked?

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makeitstop  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:31:59pm

re: #193 ObserverArt

Good guess…but not the piece I had in mind.

That’s what put him on my map, anyway.

Squier made a Telecaster with his Obey graphics.

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TedStriker  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:34:05pm

re: #195 ObserverArt

DING!

Did you Google by any chance, or did you already know it? Just wondering. It is pretty easy to find it in images.

I had to use Google to dust the cobwebs off mah brain; that piece is the first one I saw and I said “oh yeah!”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:36:14pm

re: #196 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Well, Kraft’s’ wife did pass away a few years ago. Maybe got a start to try and ease grieving and got hooked?

He’s in a relationship. Or, at least, he was up to today.

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ObserverArt  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:37:52pm

re: #197 makeitstop

That’s what put him on my map, anyway.

Squier made a Telecaster with his Obey graphics.

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Do you remember having seen these as stickers on light poles, telephone poles, street signs and anywhere someone could slap one in and around New York and probably everywhere else in America?

Andre The Giant - Obey Street Art Stickers
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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:40:40pm

At least some credentials for the latest Trump nominee for the United Nations ambassador — Kelly Knight Craft but really not sufficient…
cnn.com

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TedStriker  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:40:54pm

re: #200 ObserverArt

Do you remember having seen these as stickers on light poles, telephone poles, street signs and anywhere someone could slap one in and around New York and probably everywhere else in America?

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Andre the Giant has a posse…

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ckkatz  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:41:54pm

Interesting 21 minute talk by Historian, Author and Yale University Professor Timothy Snyder.

Basically he provides some very interesting observations on Brexit and other leave EU movements. And in passing, to MAGA. He talks about the weaknesses of the European Union and how Russia is exploiting these weaknesses.

In short:

1. He basically identifies two current mindsets:

- Inevitability - The World will get better because our country makes wise choices
“a sense that the future is just more of the present, that the laws of progress are known, that there are no alternatives, and therefore nothing really to be done.”

Versus

- Eternity - Our country’s good fortune has been stolen by others.
“places one nation at the center of a cyclical story of victimhood. Time is no longer a line into the future, but a circle that endlessly returns the same threats from the past.”

2. He argues that the European Union views itself as a voluntary collection of successful Nation-States.

He then points out that this is not true. The Western nations were failed or collapsed Empires, while the Eastern European nations were failed nation-states.

He argues that a “successful Nation State of ‘Britain’” never existed, that it was an Empire. And attempting to return to a Nation-State is going to end up with a diminished nation state of England, not Britain.

Timothy Snyder Speaks, ep. 16: The European Union

Timothy Snyder Speaks, ep. 16: The European Union

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:44:02pm

Judge rules that the State Department cannot deny citizenship to a child born abroad to a married, same-sex couple as long as one of them is a US citizen. DOJ falsely claimed the US citizen must be biologically related to the child, proven by a DNA test, a requirement not imposed on opposite-sex couples.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:44:16pm

re: #203 ckkatz

Interesting 21 minute talk by Historian, Author and Yale University Professor Timothy Snyder.

Basically he provides some very interesting observations on Brexit and other leave EU movements. And in passing, to MAGA. He talks about the weaknesses of the European Union and how Russia is exploiting these weaknesses.

In short:

1. He basically identifies two current mindsets:

- Inevitability - The World will get better because our country makes wise choices
“a sense that the future is just more of the present, that the laws of progress are known, that there are no alternatives, and therefore nothing really to be done.”

Versus

- Eternity - Our country’s good fortune has been stolen by others.
“places one nation at the center of a cyclical story of victimhood. Time is no longer a line into the future, but a circle that endlessly returns the same threats from the past.”

2. He argues that the European Union views itself as a voluntary collection of successful Nation-States.

He then points out that this is not true. The Western nations were failed or collapsed Empires, while the Eastern European nations were failed nation-states.

He argues that a “successful Nation State of ‘Britain’” never existed, that it was an Empire. And attempting to return to a Nation-State is going to end up with a diminished nation state of England, not Britain.

Timothy Snyder Speaks, ep. 16: The European Union

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He’s a really good historian.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:45:13pm

re: #204 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Judge rules that the State Department cannot deny citizenship to a child born abroad to a married, same-sex couple as long as one of them is a US citizen. DOJ falsely claimed the US citizen must be biologically related to the child, proven by a DNA test, a requirement not imposed on opposite-sex couples.

Absolutely the correct ruling. Yet another reason this administration screws lgbt people to appease bigots.

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Belafon  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:51:24pm

re: #164 dangerman-call me sandy, not a drink named Steve

looks like the ‘ring leaders’ are a couple of chinese women

One of the Chinese restaurants here in Rockwall got in trouble because the Chinese owners subjected their Latino employees to indentured servitude.

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ckkatz  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:53:35pm

re: #205 HappyWarrior

He’s a really good historian.

Yes he is.

And what I found interesting is that the issues he points out are internal, systemic and underlying all of Europe. Are also things that Russia not long ago also went through. (The collapse from a multi-ethnic empire to a supposed Nation-State. Although, in many ways, they really are not.)

And are also things being brought up by MAGA trolls. Such as claiming race, ethnicity and groups they disagree with, do not deserve citizenship in the supposed ‘Nation-State’ of the United States.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:54:07pm

re: #191 ObserverArt

I had a young art student working under me from the same Columbus art college I went to. He was doing some of our graphics decal and cut vinyl work.

He was kicked out of the art college due to getting busted a couple times for tagging here in Columbus.

He had it bad, It was almost an addiction for him. I think it had a lot to do with the late nights and getting away with it.

I think he did manage to get back into school to finish his degree, but he was on a severe time-out.

He also was a huge Shepard Fairey fan.

A free upding to anyone that knows the one piece Shepard is most well known for having created?

(I bet this won’t take lizards too long…)

He’s most known for the blue and red Obama posters but my LGF avi is a riff on his Andre the Giant has a Posse stickers from the 90’s.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 22, 2019 • 3:57:49pm

re: #209 goddamnedfrank

These were fucking everywhere in Seattle back in the day.

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Belafon  Feb 22, 2019 • 4:01:56pm
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Dread Pirate Whitebeard  Feb 22, 2019 • 4:02:40pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 22, 2019 • 4:03:26pm

It’s really too bad that Fairey turned out to be such a clown regarding appropriation and fair use.

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Kilroy was here  Feb 22, 2019 • 4:11:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 4:12:21pm

re: #211 Belafon

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What a bunch of pathetic losers.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 4:13:45pm

re: #212 Single-handed sailor

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Your Dad does it all the time and so have you but yeah find one asshole at Berkeley and use it to tar the whole left, you’re a joke no wonder why your Dad didn’t want anything to do with you.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 22, 2019 • 4:15:21pm

re: #214 Kilroy was here

That was neat. :)

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 22, 2019 • 4:25:50pm

It appears that we have another entry for Philly Pretzel’s thread killers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2019 • 4:26:41pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 22, 2019 • 4:28:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2019 • 4:30:15pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 22, 2019 • 4:32:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2019 • 4:32:46pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 4:35:49pm

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Of course she is.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 22, 2019 • 4:44:38pm

Random stupid observation:

In the last couple of days I heard Adam McCabe on “Fresh Air” and Ann Milgram on “Stay Tuned with Preet” flip back and forth between the pronunciations of Rod “RosenSTINE” and Rod “RosenSTEEN”. These are people who know. I don’t feel so bad for occasionally forgetting.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 4:46:54pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Slavery more or less.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2019 • 4:47:19pm

there’s always an old tweet

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 4:48:31pm

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

there’s always an old tweet

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Please let it be revealed he was a “client.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2019 • 4:49:31pm

re: #234 HappyWarrior

Please let it be revealed he was a “client.”

reminds me of the old commercial:
“I’m not only the Hair Club president. I’m also a client.”

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Targetpractice  Feb 22, 2019 • 4:51:38pm

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So, how long before she gets a call from the White House and suddenly backs off from voting for it?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2019 • 4:51:45pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2019 • 4:55:15pm

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Another right wing asshole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2019 • 4:59:42pm

jacob really needs to get out more in the real world

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 22, 2019 • 5:00:20pm

I can’t read the NYT article about Amy Klobuchar demeaning staff and trying to undermine their prospects for better jobs, so I don’t know details. But when asked about it at the town hall I attended last week she skirted the issue by saying something like ‘I demand a lot from my staff because I demand the best for America’. It was her weakest moment of the evening.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 22, 2019 • 5:02:34pm

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

jacob really needs to get out more in the real world

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“whispering hipsters”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2019 • 5:03:20pm
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PhillyPretzel  Feb 22, 2019 • 5:05:57pm

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes it is a long time but at least they know what they are doing and how to go about it.

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Belafon  Feb 22, 2019 • 5:09:33pm

re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth

Think of this as a precursor of what would happen of it was determined Trump worked with Putin.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 22, 2019 • 5:29:28pm

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

jacob really needs to get out more in the real world

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Racist piece of shit.

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teleskiguy  Feb 22, 2019 • 5:40:07pm

re: #85 goddamnedfrank

stole it

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austin_blue  Feb 22, 2019 • 10:09:59pm

re: #44 Old Liberal

Just think, for decades we pumped vaporized lead into our breathing air and that was due to lobbying by the lead pushers. Still remember the conservatives being upset that they couldn’t use leaded gas. Some fucking things never fucking change.

Tetraethyl lead (TEL) was used as an anti-knock ingredient in gasoline (a perfectly viable alternative was ethanol) made in refineries by the Ethyl Corporation. Hundreds of employees died of lead poisoning, and toxic lead plumes in groundwater are still a problem today. The stuff is damn persistent.

It was replaced by Methyl-tert Butyl Ether (MtBE), a man-made chemical that also could be made at refineries (instead of ethanol) in the 70’s. It has its own problems as a groundwater pollutant.

But the worst part about TEL was that, on combustion, it left elemental lead on cylinder walls and plugs that fouled the engine and required the addition of more additives called “lead scavengers”, also man-made in refineries. This pelletized the lead, which passed through the exhaust system and coated the sides of roads and highways.

The two that were primarily used were Etyhylene Dibromide (EDB) and Dichloroethane (1,2-DCA).

Depending on subsurface chemistry, DCA, which is a probable carcinogen and has a Maximum Contaminant Level (MCL) in drinking water of 5 parts per million (PPM), can decay to Vinyl Chloride (VC), which is a listed carcinogen and has an MCL of 1 PPM.

Another of the primary sources of VC is a result of the breakdown cascade of Tetrachloroethylene (TCE), a ubiquitous dry cleaning fluid used in the US since the end of WW2. It was also used as a degreaser in metal and paint shops. It is also everywhere in groundwater. It had the unfortunate ability to penetrate concrete like crap through a goose. Most dry cleaners just poured their spent TCE out the back door until the establishment of the EPA.

Everyone knows about the Clean Air Act and the Clean Water Act, but the most effective legislation passed during the initial fervor was the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA). RCRA required a host of chemicals to be tracked from production to recycling/disposal/destruction. All three were reviled by Industry as Government over-reach. They have saved or extended millions of lives. Flint should never have happened.

Back to lead scavangers: EDB, another man-made chemical which was developed in the thirties, is a much more dangerous chemical. It doesn’t break down to any significant degree. It remains stable for a hell of a long time. It is also a vicious carcinogen. The MCL for Vinyl Chloride is 1 PPM, among the lowest of any groundwater contaminants. The MCL for EDB is 50 parts per trillion. That is such a low level that there was no gas chromatography method for that level of detection of the contaminant until the SWA-846 Test Method 8011 was developed and accepted in the the mid-2000’s. Many Leaking Petroleum Storage Tank (LPST) sites identified after regulation was imposed on gas stations in 1986 identified historical leaks that had impacted groundwater. In many cases, the leaks were old and involved leaded gasoline. But the dangers of EDB weren’t known and not investigated. The vast majority of cases were closed before the danger of EDB, or a viable method of identifying it in groundwater at the MCL of 50 PPT were known or available.

Almost none of these cases have been re-opened. The threat involves, potentially, hundreds of thousands of people who think what is coming out of their taps is perfectly safe. It isn’t.


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